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	<title>Comments on: Stand Clear of the Closing (Jail) Doors: Subway Bandit Suspect in Custody</title>
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		<title>By: The Seventh Victim</title>
		<link>http://theuptowner.org/2009/12/08/stand-clear-of-the-closing-jail-doors-subway-bandit-suspect-in-custody/comment-page-1/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>The Seventh Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying that the suspect was indeed charged with a second robbery and identifying which robbery that was.  That is important information, and I wish that it had been included in the original article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying that the suspect was indeed charged with a second robbery and identifying which robbery that was.  That is important information, and I wish that it had been included in the original article.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Snow</title>
		<link>http://theuptowner.org/2009/12/08/stand-clear-of-the-closing-jail-doors-subway-bandit-suspect-in-custody/comment-page-1/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The document the court gave us indicated he is being charged in both the incident with Mr. Hansen and another one on the Lower East Side in which he was identified by the victim. 

Thank you for your comments on the progress of the case. The information we posted was accurate according to the police and city sources that gave it to us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The document the court gave us indicated he is being charged in both the incident with Mr. Hansen and another one on the Lower East Side in which he was identified by the victim. </p>
<p>Thank you for your comments on the progress of the case. The information we posted was accurate according to the police and city sources that gave it to us.</p>
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		<title>By: The Seventh Victim</title>
		<link>http://theuptowner.org/2009/12/08/stand-clear-of-the-closing-jail-doors-subway-bandit-suspect-in-custody/comment-page-1/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>The Seventh Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In-person line-ups were conducted on January 11.  If you look on the public criminal docket now, you will see that he was indicted on January 12.  However, I do not seen any indication as to which robberies he has been charged with or what counts he has been indicted on with respect to each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In-person line-ups were conducted on January 11.  If you look on the public criminal docket now, you will see that he was indicted on January 12.  However, I do not seen any indication as to which robberies he has been charged with or what counts he has been indicted on with respect to each.</p>
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		<title>By: The Seventh Victim</title>
		<link>http://theuptowner.org/2009/12/08/stand-clear-of-the-closing-jail-doors-subway-bandit-suspect-in-custody/comment-page-1/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>The Seventh Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I believe that he has only been arraigned. Not indicted as indicated in the caption of the suspect&#039;s photo.  If there is a grand jury in this case, as indicated in the article, then the grand jury will issue the indictment when it is done considering the evidence. Unless an indictment has already been handed down by a grand jury on the charges related to the May 30 incident, but the public criminal docket does not seem to indicate that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I believe that he has only been arraigned. Not indicted as indicated in the caption of the suspect&#8217;s photo.  If there is a grand jury in this case, as indicated in the article, then the grand jury will issue the indictment when it is done considering the evidence. Unless an indictment has already been handed down by a grand jury on the charges related to the May 30 incident, but the public criminal docket does not seem to indicate that.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Snow</title>
		<link>http://theuptowner.org/2009/12/08/stand-clear-of-the-closing-jail-doors-subway-bandit-suspect-in-custody/comment-page-1/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize. I was thinking 1 Train not A Train, since a number of the events occurred on the 1, which is above ground at several spots. You&#039;re right, unprofessional mistake on my part, and we have corrected the story.

&quot;Got himself a knife&quot; was not meant to indicate that the mugger never operated a knife before. He had, reportedly, used the gun-hand for the past few muggings and not a knife. However, to avoid confusion, we&#039;ve corrected that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize. I was thinking 1 Train not A Train, since a number of the events occurred on the 1, which is above ground at several spots. You&#8217;re right, unprofessional mistake on my part, and we have corrected the story.</p>
<p>&#8220;Got himself a knife&#8221; was not meant to indicate that the mugger never operated a knife before. He had, reportedly, used the gun-hand for the past few muggings and not a knife. However, to avoid confusion, we&#8217;ve corrected that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: The Seventh Victim</title>
		<link>http://theuptowner.org/2009/12/08/stand-clear-of-the-closing-jail-doors-subway-bandit-suspect-in-custody/comment-page-1/#comment-129</link>
		<dc:creator>The Seventh Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should probably retract much of what I said about the criminal charges against the suspect.  Although I have a legal background, I am not a criminal lawyer, and I have only a passing familiarity with the NY criminal code.  I do not really know enough to be sounding off about what is necessary to obtain a conviction on the top charge or why that charge is the top charge,etc.  Though I am sure about the affirmative defense part.
However, the point is that these two charges both stem from a single robbery, the one that occurred on May 30. Not two different robberies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should probably retract much of what I said about the criminal charges against the suspect.  Although I have a legal background, I am not a criminal lawyer, and I have only a passing familiarity with the NY criminal code.  I do not really know enough to be sounding off about what is necessary to obtain a conviction on the top charge or why that charge is the top charge,etc.  Though I am sure about the affirmative defense part.<br />
However, the point is that these two charges both stem from a single robbery, the one that occurred on May 30. Not two different robberies.</p>
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		<title>By: The Seventh Victim</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Seventh Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And why has he so far only been charged with one robbery?  The logical answer is that, at the time of the indictment on charges related to the May 30 incident, the DA&#039;s office felt it had insufficient evidence to charge him with any of the other robberies.  That, I think, would be the purpose of the &quot;fuller investigation&quot;-- to gather such evidence.  You state that Mr. Hansen identified the suspect from a photographic line-up.  Did any one of the other 13 victims make the same identification?  I know that I did not, and I, too, was shown a photographic line-up.   And I got a really good look at him.  From many different angles.    
The &quot;fuller investigation&quot; would involve, in part, physical line-ups, which I am betting resulted in more positive identifications than the photo array.  Since the guy&#039;s face has been all over TV, the newspapers, and the internet with the caption &quot;subway bandit.&quot;  Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why has he so far only been charged with one robbery?  The logical answer is that, at the time of the indictment on charges related to the May 30 incident, the DA&#8217;s office felt it had insufficient evidence to charge him with any of the other robberies.  That, I think, would be the purpose of the &#8220;fuller investigation&#8221;&#8211; to gather such evidence.  You state that Mr. Hansen identified the suspect from a photographic line-up.  Did any one of the other 13 victims make the same identification?  I know that I did not, and I, too, was shown a photographic line-up.   And I got a really good look at him.  From many different angles.<br />
The &#8220;fuller investigation&#8221; would involve, in part, physical line-ups, which I am betting resulted in more positive identifications than the photo array.  Since the guy&#8217;s face has been all over TV, the newspapers, and the internet with the caption &#8220;subway bandit.&#8221;  Right?</p>
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		<title>By: The Seventh Victim</title>
		<link>http://theuptowner.org/2009/12/08/stand-clear-of-the-closing-jail-doors-subway-bandit-suspect-in-custody/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>The Seventh Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry.  I can&#039;t help it.  He was not charged with two robberies.  He has only been charged in connection with one robbery.  He was charged with two counts of robbery in connection with one incident on May 30, 2009, apparently the incident during which James Hansen was robbed.  This information is readily available on the public docket for the criminal courts accessible through the website for the New York State court system.  I think it&#039;s likely that he will be charged with additional robbery charges shortly.  Check the public docket tomorrow.  

Why two charges for one robbery?  It&#039;s actually common for a criminal defendant to be indicted on multiple charges stemming from one incident.   In this case, the suspect has been charged with one count of robbery involving the display of a firearm and one count of robbery involving the use or threatened use of a dangerous instrument.  The latter is the &quot;top count&quot; which makes a lot of sense because the DA is more likely to get a conviction on that count..  You can be guilty of robbery involving the threatened use of a dangerous instrument (e.g., a gun) without actually having a dangerous instrument.  According to James&#039; account of the incident,  the robber threatened him with a pretend gun.  That&#039;s enough for a conviction on the top count if proven to the satisfaction of the jury.  Technically, you don&#039;t need to have a gun to be found guilty of first degree robbery involving display of a firearm if it appears that the perpetrator has a gun, but it&#039;s an affirmative defense if it can be shown that there wasn&#039;t really a gun.  So if a jury finds by a preponderance of the evidence that the suspect didn&#039;t have a gun but really only had his hand wrapped up in a t-shirt, the charge gets reduced to second-degree which means less jail time.

And everyone knows he didn&#039;t have a gun.  It was pretty darned obvious that he had a fist balled up in a sweatshirt/t-shirt.  In fact, in other circumstances, it would have been comical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.  I can&#8217;t help it.  He was not charged with two robberies.  He has only been charged in connection with one robbery.  He was charged with two counts of robbery in connection with one incident on May 30, 2009, apparently the incident during which James Hansen was robbed.  This information is readily available on the public docket for the criminal courts accessible through the website for the New York State court system.  I think it&#8217;s likely that he will be charged with additional robbery charges shortly.  Check the public docket tomorrow.  </p>
<p>Why two charges for one robbery?  It&#8217;s actually common for a criminal defendant to be indicted on multiple charges stemming from one incident.   In this case, the suspect has been charged with one count of robbery involving the display of a firearm and one count of robbery involving the use or threatened use of a dangerous instrument.  The latter is the &#8220;top count&#8221; which makes a lot of sense because the DA is more likely to get a conviction on that count..  You can be guilty of robbery involving the threatened use of a dangerous instrument (e.g., a gun) without actually having a dangerous instrument.  According to James&#8217; account of the incident,  the robber threatened him with a pretend gun.  That&#8217;s enough for a conviction on the top count if proven to the satisfaction of the jury.  Technically, you don&#8217;t need to have a gun to be found guilty of first degree robbery involving display of a firearm if it appears that the perpetrator has a gun, but it&#8217;s an affirmative defense if it can be shown that there wasn&#8217;t really a gun.  So if a jury finds by a preponderance of the evidence that the suspect didn&#8217;t have a gun but really only had his hand wrapped up in a t-shirt, the charge gets reduced to second-degree which means less jail time.</p>
<p>And everyone knows he didn&#8217;t have a gun.  It was pretty darned obvious that he had a fist balled up in a sweatshirt/t-shirt.  In fact, in other circumstances, it would have been comical.</p>
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		<title>By: The Seventh Victim</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Seventh Victim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sigh. I wish that I had seen this article earlier.  Daylight did not stream through the windows as the A train headed south from 207th Street on June 7.  Trust me.  I know.  I was there.  But, even if I had not been, I could tell you that there was no streaming of daylight.  Because the A train is a subway.  It runs underground all the way through Manhattan, and the sun does shine underground.

And the &quot;subway bandit&quot; did not &quot;get himself a knife&quot; after the June 7th incident.  He already had a knife and had used it in at least two of the six robberies that he perpetrated prior to June 7th.  This information was reported in several news sources, and was included on at least some of the wanted posters that were posted throughout the transit system.  I know that because, as I lay in the hospital with a fractured eye socket, the police showed me a poster with a sketch and a description of a mugging at knife point on the 1 train in the Bronx in April 2009.  But the important point is that, assuming all these robberies were perpetrated by the same man, there was nothing about the June 7th incident that inspired him to procure a knife.  He had already committed more than one robbery at knife-point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh. I wish that I had seen this article earlier.  Daylight did not stream through the windows as the A train headed south from 207th Street on June 7.  Trust me.  I know.  I was there.  But, even if I had not been, I could tell you that there was no streaming of daylight.  Because the A train is a subway.  It runs underground all the way through Manhattan, and the sun does shine underground.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;subway bandit&#8221; did not &#8220;get himself a knife&#8221; after the June 7th incident.  He already had a knife and had used it in at least two of the six robberies that he perpetrated prior to June 7th.  This information was reported in several news sources, and was included on at least some of the wanted posters that were posted throughout the transit system.  I know that because, as I lay in the hospital with a fractured eye socket, the police showed me a poster with a sketch and a description of a mugging at knife point on the 1 train in the Bronx in April 2009.  But the important point is that, assuming all these robberies were perpetrated by the same man, there was nothing about the June 7th incident that inspired him to procure a knife.  He had already committed more than one robbery at knife-point.</p>
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